Chinese Social Summary, Oct 17 — 31, 2013

Link to previous issue: Oct 10 — 16

Put two weeks of stuff into this one. Alphabetical order, etc

Black

Basketball 1v1: In response to Mushi, Black is eager to see who’s truly best in this sport…

BurNIng

Response to ACE’s loosening of match restrictions for Chinese teams: “This is music to the ears of all players and fans :D”

Faith

Regarding his drafts for iG of late: “My BPs have been a bit haphazard lately, lacking focus. Looks like it’s time to sort through my thoughts…”

Haitao (big-name Chinese caster)

Drama: TLDR — One of the suppliers for his Taobao shop was scamming by providing sub-par quality products, then when called out, ran with the money (100,000 RMB).

iceiceice

Language skills: “Just how can I improve on my Chinese?!”

LongDD’s response to iceiceice: “I teach you?”

LongDD

A champion’s equipment: “This mouse that has accompanied me for two years, multiple championships, finally broke. Let’s commemorate it for a moment. And then it’s time for new gear to continue on in my fights!”

Mushi

Reflections after 0-2 loss against TongFu: “After losing, I am very unhappy. It’s not that I cannot afford to lose, but that I feel I have failed. Bad drafts, bad performances. Right now we’re in a bit of a dip in form, but also must thank all the commiserations from so many people. We never give up! Time is what allows us to grow.”

Xtt

Birthday gift (with pic): “Sansheng’s birthday gift to me, a name brand!”

Yao

Pub problems… (with pic): “:(”
Maybe not… (with pic): “Weathered the storm?”

Zhou

On TongFu’s 2-0 over DK: “We caught DK off-guard today in our win over them, we picked a lineup that even we didn’t really understand in order to play a high pressure pushing strategy, the results ended up being excellent. But Chinese teams must be willing to try things, to fight, in order to become more flexible and creative. This way we can eventually contend against Western teams. This is only a beginning, we still need more hard work in order to catch up to those teams ahead of us.”
Fatigue: “Don’t want to sit in front of a computer all day any more! Professional players don’t have it easy, hope everyone can lend your support and encouragement.”

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Social China Summary: Oct 1-9, 2013

Helping you cyber-stalk your favorite based-in-China Dota 2 pros and personalities, DOTALAND brings a random, semi-curated selection of posts from various publicly-accessed Weibo accounts over the past few days. What are people eating, doing, saying?

This is a new thing and I make no guarantees of: quality, consistency, or overall usefulness. Is this cool, want more, is it weird, useless? Let DOTALAND know: twitter.com/Dotaland

Sorted by player name, alphabetically. Begins with link, followed by translation of post text. Presence of pictures will be noted if available.

ChuaN

What he’s been up to (pics within) — “Holidays are over, thank you to this group of brothers. Now it’s time to gather my pathetic self back together, and take big steps towards my dream!”

DD

No eating late at night — “Whoever catches me eating late at night again, I will pay 200 RMB each time! Please supervise me”

LaNm

Pickup basketball — “Anyone for basketball around 10 in the morning? Usually one to two hours, Mushi and I are looking for a group.” (DD responded saying he’d play football/soccer, KingJ said ping pong, rOtk said it’s far while someone else said that rOtk is bad at basketball anyway, but they agreed that they should organize a game together sometime)

#Dedication — In response to someone asking if he’d do more commentating: “I’m dedicating my all to my professional competitive career, no plans to split my focus. Will only consider commentating again after I retire.”

LongDD

As a commentator 1 — “Commentating is so much fun, hope that I can gradually overcome nerves, and be like I am when streaming on YY, at ease.”

As a commentator 2 — “Going home tomorrow. Thank you WPC for giving me this opportunity to learn and show myself. WPC is great, I hope to have the chance to come back again in the future.”

Mushi

After DK vs iG (DK 2-0 iG) — “Thank you everyone for your well wishes, in the end we held! I still did not do my best, so I must work hard to analyze!”

rOtk

First commentary experience — After commentating DK vs iG: “I speak what I see. I definitely had no intentions of purposely speaking ill of DK, it was simply that I’m not a great commentator. I will improve in the future. I was truly trying to objectively analyze the two teams’ styles — DK tends towards farming, iG tends towards fighting, and thus I felt that DK would face high pressure. But congrats to DK.”

Sansheng

Quitting smoking — “I want to quit smoking!! Please everyone supervise me!!” (Zhou’s response to Sansheng, not the most encouraging: “If you are able to quit smoking, then I can quit eating!”)

Sylar

Pub problems (with pic) — “Today’s results have been unbelievable (literal translation: sky-shattering in a bad way)!” (spoiler: pros aren’t immune to loss streaks either)

xiao8

Bad habit for a commentator to have — “It’s about time to fix that habit of using profanity”

YYF

After DK vs iG (DK 2-0 iG) — “Due to a serious mistake on my part, we lost today. I’ve never hated myself as much. For my performances today, I can only use four words to describe: I’m so damn noob!”

ZSMJ

Gift from Zhou (it’s an awesome Medusa figurine, pic within) — “How’s this Medusa from Zhou-god?”

LongDD interview: CDEC, iG, TongFu, and TI3

SGamer: Hello LongDD, thank you for the interview. As a top 10 ranked player in the previous season, you’ve gone even further this season to place first. How do you feel?
LongDD: I’ve actually had a top 4 in the past. Anyway, it’s great. I’ve been participating in CDEC since a few years ago, but never got first, because in the past I didn’t have the time to play much CDEC, but now I’ve finally done it.

SG: Compared to last season, this season’s top 10 sees far fewer professional players, and the overall amount of games has decreased as well, why do you think that is?
LongDD: They’ve all gone to play at events, of course, so that’s why there aren’t as many professional players.

SG: The lack of professional players should mean that there is room for newcomers to prove themselvess. Have you paid attention to any particularly talented players here?
LongDD: I think that xiaohong guy plays decently. Others I really haven’t paid much attention to.

SG:What are the main differences you see between pub games, competitive games, and in-house games?
LongDD: Pub games see different item choices that you wouldn’t see in CDEC, plus there is no points-based ranking system.

SG: TongFu won the DSL title — what do you think about their rise to power?
LongDD: I like the atmosphere they have at TongFu, lots of passion in their game. I can only say that TI3 is right in front of them, and if they want to achieve success then they must continue working hard.

SG: iG of late has been mired in a crisis, why do you think that is, and how do you think they should go about resolving it? Can [their new coach] 121 help them get back to their invincible old selves?
LongDD: iG’s main difference is that they’ve lost their confidence. So then they don’t even know what their strongest points are anymore.

SG: With iG’s fall and TongFu’s rise, what are your views on the current scene amongst Chinese teams? Which team is the strongest right now?
LongDD: Currently I think LGD has the best chance, they’ve been the most stable in recent times.

SG: TI3 is a mere few weeks away. Compared to last year, which team do you think has changed the most since TI2?
LongDD: Surely it is iG. Their current form is so worrisome, but I hope they can get out from it soon.

SG: Compared to last year, it would seem that this year, Western teams will come much better prepared. Alliance and NaVi both came to China and played excellently, what are your views on these two teams? Can they dominate TI3 and defeat the Chinese teams?
LongDD: I can only say, that there’s a chance of it. But I still favor the Chinese teams.

SG: How should the Chinese teams go about defeating these top tier Western teams? What should they do to counter the flexibility that these Western teams show in drafting?
LongDD: Learn, they must learn and analyze their strategies. Chinese teams should be good at that, learning.

SG: Even though you’re no longer playing professionally, you still stream frequently via YY, and have spent a lot of time playing in CDEC and pub games. What exactly do you think has brought so many viewers to your streams of these games?
LongDD: I think because I’m fairly interesting… and there’s still some professionalism about me, yeah!

SG: You’re a very experienced veteran pro player, and you’ve also shown that you can take on the role of a coach. Simultaneously, you also seem to be a very popular streamer. So given the choice, would you lean towards being involved in the pro scene, or as a streamer?
LongDD: If there’s a chance, I’d rather continue playing professionally. This is also the reason I continue to play every day.

SG: You’ve played with both DK and TongFu, and also put in some good performances in a short stint with LGD. Is it safe to say that you still possess the drive needed to be a competitive player? Which team would you favor joining, why?
LongDD: If I had the chance, I would still want to go back to the traditional Big 3 teams, and go for another championship.

SG: Thank you for your time. Anything to say to fans?
LongDD: I hope you all will give me your support.

 

Source: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201307/151557.html

SGamer interview with LongDD: I will grow old, but I will not leave

Oops, had this one backlogged. This is from May 15, a few days ago.

Original: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201305/150418_4.html

SGamer: Thank you to LongDD for doing this interview with SGamer.com. Earlier in the afternoon, you had told me that you were at the airport; where are you now?
LongDD: I’ve now arrived at the LGD team house.

SGamer: When you first left LGD a few days back, was there any anger?
LongDD: There wasn’t much anger, but there was a reluctatnce — I didn’t want to leave the pro scene, I didn’t want to give up on Seattle.

SGamer: Was it that once you left the team, LGD would have to play in the TI3 qualifiers? Additionally, something many people are curious about — when LGD first announced you as an official member, was there any contract signed?
LongDD: Indeed, because of my leaving the team, they would have to play in the qualifiers. My return this time is to accompany them along the way, to contribute that which I am able to. Everything was very rushed before so there was never any contract.

SGamer: LGD had mentioned in their earlier announcement that they had made efforts to keep you around by offering you other positions with the team, but you had declined. Why did you decline at first, and then return?
LongDD: Because I’d been playing professionally five years now, and had grown tired of floating around. After being out and about so many years, I wanted to go home. My role this time as a coach will still be a short one, just for a few days.

SGamer: Who contacted you to invite you back as coach? Does this all mean that you will still be leaving LGD after TI3?
LongDD: Xiao8 contacted me, and I agreed. There wasn’t much of a reason behind it, and if I had to say, it would be the fact that we’re all friends. After helping them make preparations for the TI3 qualifiers I’ll be leaving, so about 6 or 7 days…

SGamer: Why not choose to stick around with LGD, at least until after TI3?
LongDD: I will not stay, because I feel weary in the heart.

SGamer: Every in LGD is a veteran of the scene, so what will you mainly be responsible for?
LongDD: I’ve just arrived back so I’m still not sure exactly what. I think it’ll be things like summarizing results and strategies, making suggestions for improvements on things I see in 3v3 scrims, bans and picks, etc.

SGamer: How do you rate LGD’s current form? In terms of individual players do you think LGD can go toe-to-toe with iG?
LongDD: I’ve always felt that LGD has exceptional players in their team. Their loss in the DSL to VG, I feel, is only down to a lack of preparation.

SGamer: What do you think is the most important element of a typical competitive game now? Bans/pick stage?
LongDD: Nowadays in professional matches, the bans/picks determines something like 60-70% of the outcome. The rest of it is down to lane setups and how each lane fares, as well as performance and team execution. The reason I say this is because player skill is very similar between top teams now.

SGamer: Compared to the old mode of three bans in the first ban phase, what does the change to two bans bring?
LongDD: It means that strategies are more varied. Bans/picks become more difficult to get right, and thus require more out of each team in order to achieve success. It requires teams to know how to play more different styles. So competitive games nowadays possess a higher degree of tactical thought.

SGamer: What do you feel LGD’s greatest weakness right now?
LongDD: Mainly it is that they lack a wider array of styles. They must understand this, and practice some more combinations, and work on their mentality.

SGamer: Mentality? Are you saying their mentality right now isn’t in a good place?
LongDD: I personally feel that they need to try more different things; they can’t only always run the same exact things. The new styles coming from many different teams are things that cannot simply be ignored.

SGamer: After leaving LGD, you began making vods and streams. Has this been enjoyable for you, or have you still been thinking about……
LongDD: Playing pro? The professional lifestyle is a brutally competitive one. Without the chance of a good team, I don’t want to strive for it any longer. Streaming is quite fun, I had been spending 16, 17 hours a day doing it — putting my life into it, haha.

SGamer: Will you continue streaming after helping LGD with the TI3 qualifiers?
LongDD: Yes.

SGamer: Under your tutelage, how do you think LGD will do at G-1?
LongDD: I think they should be champions.

SGamer: What is training like for LGD right now? Are they mainly scrimming with the Int squad or with other teams?
LongDD: Yeah, the typical day is scrimming with various teams. During my time here I will help arrange some laning and bans/picks practices.

SGamer: Which teams do you scrim more with?LongDD: All about the same, we contact all of them.

SGamer: Do you feel that LGD is able to challenge iG’s position at the top?
LongDD: I feel that there is a possibility, and the possibility is a big one.

SGamer: Lastly, why don’t you bring this interview to an end?
LongDD: Thank you to those friends who have supported me all along. I will eventually grow old, but I will not leave.

LongDD back to LGD.cn as coach

Original: http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20130514/1809913.html

Earlier, LongDD mentioned on his own YY streaming channel that he might be going back to LGD.cn as a coach. A bit after that, he posted on his weibo…

“Lots of friends have shown interest in my going back to LGD. Friends need help, so I’ll do what I can. After their bootcamp, I will go back to doing my own thing, but for now I hope to be able to help LGD achieve a satisfactory result. Thank you to the care and interest shown by all my friends, and the support you’ve given all along, thank you!”

Players such as xiao8 and Sc/DD are seen replying to his post, welcoming him as coach.

LGD’s official explanation for longDD’s departure

Earlier in the day, LGD posted an official explanation for the whole situation revolving around longDD’s departure on their official weibo account.

Direct link to post: http://t.qq.com/p/t/199469041082504

Translated:

1. LongDD, after leaving TongFu, contacted our players directly, strongly requesting a chance to tryout for our team. He expressed his desire to train hard and play hard.
2. At that time we had DD/Sc needing to leave the team for his surgery, so we agreed to longDD’s tryout request.
3. When he first came to us, longDD’s performances left as all fairly satisfied, and after some discussion, the decision was made for DD/Sc to transition to broadcaster upon his return from surgery, and the announcement was made that longDD had become an official member.
4. After announcing him as an official member, we felt that longDD lost his original drive and diligence, and slowly began to let personal problems leak out. After multiple occasions of communication and discussion, there weren’t any changes for the better, and his attitude remained less enthusiastic than at first. After speaking with him, he decided to retire, and even though we attempted to keep him around by giving him a different position with the team, he expressed a desire to return home for a break, so we respected his choice.
5. Due to various big competitions looming on the horizon, we had also considered trying out other players as a replacement (but had not made any direct approaches to anyone).
7. At the same time, our old member, DD/Sc, wished to return to the team, to help weather the transition, so we announced his official return.
Other: After receiving invites to TI3, the five of us were aware of the weight of everything here, and also that roster changes may not be made lightly. We respect Valve’s decision, and we hope to continue towards our goals via our own hard work, and apologize for the consternation this has brought upon everyone.

Is it all worth it? Fans are split on the issue. Is the announcement fair? Big-name Chinese commentator, retired pro player, DC, doesn’t seem to think so: http://t.qq.com/p/t/191197114681110  — he has expressed his opinion that although roster changes are normal, the wording of the explanation is unfair to longDD.

Is this the end of the matter, and will the waves calm now that everyone seems to have gotten a word in? As often the case with these matters, the whole truth may never be completely known, but we wish smooth sailing to all those involved, and certainly hope to see TI2’s third place finishers back at TI3… one way or the other.

The truth behind LongDD leaving LGD.cn?

Over the weekend, various Dota-related forums and sites reported on LongDD leaving LGD.cn, news that came as a surprise to many as LGD.cn’s performances since his joining haven’t been bad, and LongDD himself had only just recently joined the team. The original story revolving around LongDD’s departure was a very dramatic one, but now, SGamer finds that one of their users may have been able to uncover a story that is closer to the truth — one LongDD fan managed to get in touch with him directly and posted screenshots from their chat, translated below. Long story short, the other members of LGD decided that LongDD was not up to what they needed and decided to make the change, everything else in between is left mostly unsaid, with obvious disappointment for all those involved…

Fan: What’s going on? I was looking forward to seeing you at TI3, how come you’re talking of retiring now… Add oil please, sincerely, the honest thoughts of a long-time fan of yours.
LongDD: No team anymore
Fan: The internal strife is that bad?
LongDD: It isn’t strife, there haven’t really been arguments or fights
Fan: I don’t get it, I don’t understand, this is all coming ahead of TI3 now, can you give us an explanation as to why? I want to hear your most authentic thoughts on the matter, and no matter what your decision is, we will support you
LongDD: It’s LGD that feels my mechanical skill is not up to par, they want to make a change. They feel that I am about the same as when they had DD, so they might as well just get someone new entirely
Fan: Last minute changes like this? I’m damn upset, how are you not up to par… Ruru (an LGD manager), too vicious
LongDD: It should have little to do with Ruru, I think
Fan: I’m so disappointed, LGD’s management people eat poop
LongDD: I’ve felt pretty good about myself. However, my weakness is indeed in my mechanics, it isn’t polished enough. But each player is different, as for me, I’m steady and reliable at offline events, I won’t make mistakes. There are plenty of people who have great mechanics, but once they’re at an offline event, their hands shake
Fan: I refuse to accept that, how good can a new replacement be? It’s an obvious power play to get you out. You’ve got vast experience, decent mechanics, and with TI3 approaching, even if you’re currently lacking a bit, you can always focus on that improving that in training
LongDD: These things, I don’t really understand either. Otherwise I wouldn’t be disappointed either
Fan: Watching you as you went from a hot-blooded young player to a steady veteran, all the challenges along the way… Sigh, retire then, the Dota scene is too much of a mess, I feel like there’s no hope anymore. So many things I want to say to those people… But anyway, no matter what, we still support you
LongDD: Thank you, in the future I’ll be doing vods, streams, come visit lots!
Fan: This is for sure, I will definitely give you much support

Source: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201305/150257.html