ZSMJ and Banana to round out ‘dream team’?

While the ‘dream team’ has basically confirmed its 1-3 roles as Hao, Mu, and xiao8 respectively, the new team’s 4-5 positions saw much uncertainty as only recently, originally rumored additions ChuaN and Faith have both been said to be returning to iG after the break. In their place, newest information suggests that ZSMJ and Banana will be joining the ‘dream team’. This essentially leaves TongFu with no first team squad remaining, so along with seeing this new dream team unfold, another point of interest will be to see how TongFu might look to recover.

There’s also the chance that KingJ may be involved in all this somehow. After being relatively inactive in the past few months, yesterday he posted on his Weibo two posts suggesting he was about to make a return, saying that “It’s almost time“, and “See you tomorrow guys“.

Sources: http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20140218/1880417.htmlhttp://t.qq.com/KingJ

 

 

Rumors: zExBinGo to TongFu, Maybe to LGD

zExBinGo to TongFu

Previously part of a temporary TongFu 3rd team, formed to compete in Korea’s NISM showmatch series (TongFu 3rd team won the event), zExBinGo has been rumored according to inside sources to be on the verge of sealing a move to TongFu’s first team after Zhou’s retirement. The high level pubstar has been long regarded as one of China’s new hopes, and his role within TongFu’s new team is yet to be determined, with Kabu rumored to be leaving TongFu once again. Additionally, rumors claim that former pro scene players yAobAi (of former PanDa note), and NEO/Sag (RattleSnake) may be joining TongFu.

Source: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201402/154771.html

Maybe to LGD

According to another inside source, high level Chinese pub player Maybe, known as a very complete player that mainly plays carry and playmaker, is getting close to joining LGD.

Of interest is that if all these rumors come true, this means that TongFu is replacing up to three first team members — further fuel to the fire that is Mu joining up with a rumored superteam? And Maybe would be replacing xiao8, whose D2L trip to Vegas with LGD was heavily hinted at being his last outing with the team.

Source: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201402/154765.html

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Chinese Social Summary: Dec 29, 2013 — Jan 10, 2014

Link to previous issue: Dec 10 — Dec 28, 2013

Lots of stuff… New Year wishes, WPC-ACE responses, D2L responses… Translations of Chinese pros and personalities public Weibo posts and responses.
Description of ‘add oil’ here.

LaNm

Feed MMY: “Captain Duck hasn’t been given enough food, has become unhappy”
Regarding his WPC-ACE Finals keyboard smash: “No need to be concerned about my keyboard, lost a few keycaps, which will be returned to me after event cleanup for me to keep as a memory. In some future offline event, I’ll give them away to DK fans.”

xiao8

Regarding LGD’s WPC-ACE semifinal loss: “I’ll take all the blame. Sick and feverish for many days, and it’s affected our training. Sorry I’ve let down those friends who support us. On another note, would also like to wish everyone an early Happy New Year.”

DD’s response to xiao8: “Our captain persevered through sickness and still insists on taking the blame, this is too much, the blame cannot be yours.”

Watching DK vs iG at WPC-ACE Finals: “This…..”
A perfect ending with D2L S4 (with pics): “Thank you to my teammates, a perfect ending. 2014 will see a new beginning. It’s been more than three years with LGD, our Dream five forever.

820’s response to xiao8: “Add oil in the new place”
KingJ’s response to xiao8: “An end is another beginning”

Yao

New Year: “Another year has passed just like that. Ups and downs, joys and sorrows, in the end it feels like it’s just me alone with all of this, so tiring. There have been some negative emotions, I hope for understanding. Happy New Year to all, and good luck for the next year.”
D2L S4 win (with pic): “happy ending…”

rOtK

New Year and WPC-ACE: “Thank you to sydm for his best efforts in WPC-ACE, the matches are over for us so let’s not talk about that anymore. Tonight is New Year’s Eve, and I hope you all take some time to spend with family. To those I love, and those that love me, Happy New Year :)”
Entertainment in Vegas (with pics): “David Copperfield! Flashy, cool magic, the price of entry worth it.”
D2L S4 loss: “Things couldn’t always go so well for us playing overseas, but it was unexpected that we would lose in this manner. We played too ugly, sorry to everyone. Good luck to LGD in the finals, I hope for a good result.”

MMY

WPC-ACE Finals win: “We’ve completed a miracle, thank you to my teammates!”

820 response to MMY: “Awesome :)”

BurNIng

WPC-ACE Finals win: “This has been the most exhilirating match I’ve ever played!! Thank you to my amazing teammates!!”

Zhou response to BurNIng: “Never would have thought, a miracle has happened.”

Wishes for Super and VG: “Happy birthday (to Super)! Add oil for D2L!”

Black

DK winning: “Thanks to DK I can leave China happily 🙂 so happy!!”
LGD winning: “LGD DID IT!!!! wohoooooooooooooooooooooooo good job guys!!!”

820

Before D2L Finals: “The title we must bring back to China, we will do our best!”
After D2L Finals: “Mission accomplished, nice”

ddc response to 820: “A great coach of China!”
DD response to 820: “A 1-in-100 year rarity of an excellent coach”

ChuaN

On iG’s side for WPC-ACE: “I hope iG can win the title, add oil!!!”

Mushi

WPC-ACE Finals win: “Haven’t posted in a while! This post is to thank those who have believed in me all along, as well as to my family for staying with me! And my teammates for their hard work! We will work even harder in 2014! Thank you.”

Faith

Loss in WPC-ACE Finals: “We were indeed not as strong as our opponents. But what really makes me feel bad is the fact that 430 played through sickness for the entire day, he doesn’t even sound right anymore. And we still lost in the end.”
Talking about Alliance losing to Fnatic at D2L: “The patch changed so much :O”

YYF

Loss in WPC-ACE Finals: “We still aren’t working hard enough, let’s keep at it. We let our fans down again. Ferrari_430’s play today was excellent despite his sickness, but sadly we still lost. We will absolutely redeem ourselves in the future!!!”

DC

Watching DK and LaNm win: “At first, upon seeing LaNm slam his keyboard, I felt like it was funny, it was an act of excitement in a moment of impossible comeback. Afterwards, watching LaNm’s heartfelt shouts over and over on repeat, I somehow began to feel sad. Just as this match will go down in history, LaNm’s career has been filled with twists and turns. In comparison, 430, who came of age in the scene at the same time as LaNm, has had a relatively smoother experience in contrast. It’s been four years, truly hasn’t been easy for you. Old friend, fight on with all your battle scars!

ZSMJ

Comedian ZSMJ (with very good pics): “Going out with the girlfriend, a coat caught her eye. Upon seeing the price tag, she exclaimed in despair to me, “So expensive, it costs 3800”. I reply, “3800? It’s just the price of a Relic. Buy it! Wait seven minutes for me!” She threw me a look, and then, and then … there was no more~~~~ T_T”

Fenrir

D2L loss: “I wanted to be able to have a nice New Year but it’s so hard ~”

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EHOME’s 71 to DK as coach?

Former manager of EHOME, the behind-the-scenes force during EHOME’s legendary run in 2010, 71, was seen at G-League with BurNIng and the rest of DK recently. Rumors are that he’s joined DK as their new coach, or has plans to do so… In the recent DK player bios, both LaNm and BurNIng listed their EHOME manager 71 as the most influential person in their careers. And in a recent Weibo post from 71, he himself included BurNIng and LaNm as amongst his best players. The respect is certainly there.

71 with DK at G-League…

Furthermore, in a recent Weibo post, 71 said “Hey, nice to meet you”, a cryptic message that could be suggesting that he has re-united with an old friend. In the responses, one fan asked if he had joined DK, and 71 responded with a “;-]” winky smiley face. Another fan said to him, “71, please bring us another glorious dynasty,” and 71 responded, “I will!”

DK has quietly re-assembled three of EHOME’s best ever players; if this rumor of the former EHOME manager and coach joining proves to be true, is this the missing piece that DK has been looking for all along?

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Summary of the 2013 Chinese shuffle – as of Sept 5

For everyone trying to keep track at home, but are having trouble… here’s a rough collection of the main newsworthy events in 2013’s Chinese shuffle and relevant source links. From top to bottom, the order goes from the most recent to the earliest. Items that are mostly at the moment unsourced rumors will be in italics.

– LGD confirms RStars.xiaotuji as their new carry, Sylar to RisingStars

This rounds out LGD’s lineup once more, and the situation bears similarity to when LGD first brought Sylar on — xiaotuji is another promising relatively new player to the scene. Can LGD repeat history and become dominant once again? Sylar on the other hand replaces xiaotuji in RisingStars — can Rstars continue their upward trajectory?

– DK announces new all-star lineup

BurNIng remains as carry, Mushi joins as solo mid, iceiceice as offlaner, with Dai/MMY and LaNm on support — this is said to be the role specification of the new star-studded DK lineup. On a sidenote, DK’s manager Farseer would like to state that the so-called ‘dream team’ that had been rumored earlier is not actually DK: “it has nothing to do with us, please don’t call us the dream team.”

– XDD and xiaotuji of RisingStars both leave, said to be joining ‘top teams’

The Rstars owner talks about both of them leaving. The big rumor regarding xiaotuji is that he is LGD’s new carry player.

– Zhou rumored to be changing his mind on going to TongFu

Zhou publicly flames Efeng, part of the management at iG, for “being two-faced, your words are worth nothing”. Speculation is that this is referring to the fact that prior to Zhou leaving iG and going to TongFu, he was promised that iG would not try to recruit other TongFu members away, but after Zhou left, iG made one or more approaches for TongFu player(s). TongFu’s manager Cuzn looks to be meeting these new developments with a mixture of surprise and dismay.

– Zhou leaves iG, joins TongFu, while Hao goes to iG

Zhou leaves iG, Hao comes to iG. The two players essentially switch places on their respective teams. Additionally, some sort of ‘strategic partnership’ has been formed between the two clubs as a result of this transaction. It is also said that KingJ and Mu are both leaving TongFu, and possibly Banana too. The split of Hao and Mu is a saddening one.

– rOtk and Super to VG, ZSMJ and CTY out of VG

ROtk and Super quickly find a new home with VG. At the same time, ZSMJ and CTY are said to have left VG, with VG stating that they made every effort to get ZSMJ to stay, whether as a coach or otherwise. ZSMJ himself has said that he will continue playing… but not with VG, apparently.

– Kabu (and LaNm) leave RattleSnake

Kabu reveals that he’s left RattleSnake. In his farewell post on Weibo, he tagged Luo, Icy, and Sag, but not LaNm, indirectly further confirming the latter also no longer being part of RSnake, something that had been rumored since after TI3. LaNm would go on to join DK.

– Mushi leaves Orange, eye on China

Mushi announces that he’s left Orange, with his goal being none other than China. He would go on to join DK.

– LGD statement on Sylar situation

LGD attempts to address the beyond-awkward situation with their now-former carry, but Sylar responds in his own way (his responses have since been deleted), basically refuting their claims and refusing to reconsider.

– DK statement on rOtk situation

DK’s manager Farseer tries to clear the air regarding the huge changes that left only BurNIng in the team. ROtk seems to be understanding, and ultimately caps off a bittersweet ending by wishing everyone well

– rOtk kicked from DK, unwillingly; Super and others out too

In which rOtk outlines why he felt unfairly treated, in a fiery, empassioned statement. The rest of the DK players seem to be just as shocked, and respond in their own individual ways. A few days later, DK confirms that only BurNIng remains in their roster. MMY would return to DK as a member afterwards.

– Sylar leaves LGD.cn of his own accord

“I’ve left the team,” with this statement, LGD is short a carry player, and what a carry Sylar was for the team.

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Sylar’s reaction to rOtk’s statement reveals a bit more of his own situation…?

Source: http://t.qq.com/p/t/289558083799071

rOtk posted on his own QQ Weibo a response to being taken off of the DK roster. In response to this, someone posted, “The first one” (essentially saying that this is the start of the official changes within Chinese Dota).

Sylar then responds to this person, “You’re wrong, I was the first one. I was put in the same position [as rOtk]”

This all comes in the midst of rumors amongst fans that Sylar was to join DK soon… the plot thickens?

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VG’s fy leaves, xtt quits: Interview with Xtt himself regarding the split

After news of VG’s roster undergoing some changes — some sanctioned and some not so sanctioned by the club, UUU9.com got an interview with one of the players at the center of this upheaval…

Original interview: http://dota2.uuu9.com/201306/445667.shtml

UUU9.com: Just now, via weibo, we’ve learned that you and teammate Fy have ‘been kicked’. What reasoning was behind the club’s decision in you leaving? Or was it you guys making the choice for yourselves?
XTT: The club never told me to leave, but I had heard certain things, not much else is clear.

U9: Then that means that, without an official announcement regarding the departure, perhaps it has all been a misunderstanding?
XTT: Actually, even without this particular episode, I still wouldn’t want to continue on, because the club has already tried on three separate occasions to replace me.

U9: On your Weibo, you have mentioned that there’s a replacement for you lined up already, can you reveal who it is?
XTT: I’m sorry, this is inconvenient for me to reveal.

U9: When did the three occasions of trying to replace you come? Were these attempts direct responses to certain matches?
XTT: It was when I first joined, then when ZSMJ joined, and now this time.

U9: Your progress so far has been very clear to see, and many fans believe that right now you are one of the best performers out of VG’s players, so why would this all end up happening? Is it because of communication issues? Or because of other internal problems?
XTT: Mainly it’s because my style conflicts with the leadership in the team.

U9: Can you talk a bit about this conflict in style?
XTT: My playstyle tends towards being more conservative, I like to play with a plan.

U9: Your play with VG has been excellent; do you have any plans for the future, will you continue playing professionally?
XTT: I’m mostly happy with my performances. I will continue playing, I wish to achieve some results.

U9: Let’s chat about some other things — previously we recall that you were sick for a long period of time and had to be hospitalized, how is your health now?
XTT: The recovery’s gone pretty well, the sad thing being that a lot of time was lost in the process.

U9: Indeed, we remember that during that time, you were playing with us from the hospital bed. Does your family support your current choice of career?
XTT: My family really supports me, they watch every match of mine.

U9: Also in that period of time, you played a bit of LoL. What brought you back to Dota?
XTT: After I got better, I could no longer play LoL as comfortably, the 11 platform had just released, and so I went back to play Dota.

U9: At the end here, any words for your fans?
XTT: Thank you to the friends who have supported me all this way, I will not give up.

Chinese comment on the interview: “You only play LoL when you’re sick”

http://dota2.uuu9.com/201306/445667.shtml

Crisis of Spirit: One Chinese point of view on iG’s recent losses

DOTALAND note: Pretty interesting, yet perhaps a bit overreactive. Well-written, this is one point of view. Is this the fall of iG or just a major bump in their path? We can all speculate, and this piece does so unabashedly, with some assumptions, rumors, and analysis all in one.

We all know that there would never be one singular force to always dominate the Chinese Dota scene, but what looks like a sudden and drastic decline in iG’s fortunes has taken us all by surprise. From “Best in Universe” to GGing within 20 minutes, what exactly has happened?

In-game analysis

These are all things that we’ve seen with our own eyes: iG’s players first lost their motivation to continue innovating and improving, their picks seemingly stuck in a pre-Chinese New Year rut of old styles and tactics. At most they take an idea or two from other teams’ strategies, something that might allow them to maintain some semblance of respectability in online matches, but nothing more.

This by itself isn’t necessarily irredeemably bad for them, what is, however, is what appears to be a loss of fighting spirit and temperance in their play, replaced by what looks like pridefulness.

Let’s talk about ChuaN first. He was the worst out of them all earlier against LGD.cn. Perhaps he was not wrong to rotate over to help Furion, but he didn’t wait to cast his stun, thinking he could show off what he must think is a 100% accuracy spell for him, yet sadly this time, luck shows that it does not always stand on the same side, and he missed. He could’ve waited for Furion to trap the enemy in place first and then get the sure stun as any pro team would do; clearly this was not a lack of communication, but an exhibit of players making pub-level mistakes.

Then there’s Farmer Zhou. Confidently skilling at level 1 before leaving fountain, perhaps because he’s a pro, there’s nothing wrong with using Treants to scout. But since you’ve done that already, what was the point in running your hero to the river? To contest a rune with Dark Seer? The lanes at this point are obvious, you will be up against Dark Seer, do you really think you can win the rune over a DS at level 1? And then DS gets a haste rune, you’re 99% dead, but still why don’t you summon some more trees and try some blocking, and perhaps change that 99% to a 90%? Instead you do nothing, jog casually back towards your lane and feed first blood before making it, you’ve gotta be kidding me!

Faith, brah, your IQ has been eaten by your woman too? What was that ban/pick? They’ve banned five physical damage cores, then picked a Spectre, leaving you guys with no physical damage to choose from, hmm? Fallen into their trap, haven’t you? But still, you could make some better picks even after that, yet you pick Tinker and Furion as your last two, two pushers to go up against a lineup with Nyx and Spectre? Were you afraid that they wouldn’t have enough fun ganking already? Your entire lineup had one hard stun in Lina, and uncertain stun at that. Apart from that, you have Shadow Demon’s Disrupt. They’ve got the likes of Dark Seer, meaning that once they go rush you, you can counter kill at most one hero. So this entire draft left iG on the back foot from the start.

YYF this game missed last hits, so many easy last hits. Perhaps it’s because you were coordinating with teammates, or perhaps it’s because you’re supremely confident and do not need measly last hits, or perhaps you were reminiscing about that last threesome you’d had in your dreams… whatever, thousands of reasons, but missing those last hits in such a game showed to everyone that iG is missing that concentrated determination that they had in the past.

Watching Sylar patiently going back and forth adjusting even the slightest of problems with his equipment, watching him complete all his last hits under the tower, this LGD squad right now has an impressively superior mentality and attitude compared to this iG squad, that is for sure.

Ferrari_430 is the only one that performed normally, but everything had gone too far beyond his control, and he couldn’t save them.

Out of game analysis

There is no invincible person or dynasty, because the world is always changing, and no one can forever keep up with what happens at the top. However, people always desire more, and their desire is an impatient one. For iG’s players, they are at the peaks of their respective careers, what comes after the peak? Decline, then retirement.

No matter how strong they are now, time will always take its toll, and they are all clear about this. So in a recent livestream, we heard Zhou asking SJQ how to go about setting up a Taobao shop. We’ve seen the typically reserved YYF go from an occasional streamer within the team’s streaming rotation, to the constant streamer now. And big, simple ChuaN, streaming, but away from the bright glares of the domestic scene — he has selected to stream on a foreign platform.

Streaming. The advantages are as a great tool for promotion and name-recognition, and in this day and age, these are valuable things for those looking to carve out a new path after retirement as players.

And finally, Zhou began streaming.

There was that incident between YYF and Zhou; looking back, that was to be expected. YYF streaming solo, his popularity soaring, and more or less affecting the interests of the rest of the team. These things perhaps are all just surface level, but it is maybe just that allocation or split in interests that is affecting iG’s performances, that has shaken their roots as a team.

When Zhou spoke of the “spirit of Dota” in his recent interview, little did we know that they were already mired in a crisis of their own spirit.

Original: http://dota.shandian.biz/867.html

The truth behind LongDD leaving LGD.cn?

Over the weekend, various Dota-related forums and sites reported on LongDD leaving LGD.cn, news that came as a surprise to many as LGD.cn’s performances since his joining haven’t been bad, and LongDD himself had only just recently joined the team. The original story revolving around LongDD’s departure was a very dramatic one, but now, SGamer finds that one of their users may have been able to uncover a story that is closer to the truth — one LongDD fan managed to get in touch with him directly and posted screenshots from their chat, translated below. Long story short, the other members of LGD decided that LongDD was not up to what they needed and decided to make the change, everything else in between is left mostly unsaid, with obvious disappointment for all those involved…

Fan: What’s going on? I was looking forward to seeing you at TI3, how come you’re talking of retiring now… Add oil please, sincerely, the honest thoughts of a long-time fan of yours.
LongDD: No team anymore
Fan: The internal strife is that bad?
LongDD: It isn’t strife, there haven’t really been arguments or fights
Fan: I don’t get it, I don’t understand, this is all coming ahead of TI3 now, can you give us an explanation as to why? I want to hear your most authentic thoughts on the matter, and no matter what your decision is, we will support you
LongDD: It’s LGD that feels my mechanical skill is not up to par, they want to make a change. They feel that I am about the same as when they had DD, so they might as well just get someone new entirely
Fan: Last minute changes like this? I’m damn upset, how are you not up to par… Ruru (an LGD manager), too vicious
LongDD: It should have little to do with Ruru, I think
Fan: I’m so disappointed, LGD’s management people eat poop
LongDD: I’ve felt pretty good about myself. However, my weakness is indeed in my mechanics, it isn’t polished enough. But each player is different, as for me, I’m steady and reliable at offline events, I won’t make mistakes. There are plenty of people who have great mechanics, but once they’re at an offline event, their hands shake
Fan: I refuse to accept that, how good can a new replacement be? It’s an obvious power play to get you out. You’ve got vast experience, decent mechanics, and with TI3 approaching, even if you’re currently lacking a bit, you can always focus on that improving that in training
LongDD: These things, I don’t really understand either. Otherwise I wouldn’t be disappointed either
Fan: Watching you as you went from a hot-blooded young player to a steady veteran, all the challenges along the way… Sigh, retire then, the Dota scene is too much of a mess, I feel like there’s no hope anymore. So many things I want to say to those people… But anyway, no matter what, we still support you
LongDD: Thank you, in the future I’ll be doing vods, streams, come visit lots!
Fan: This is for sure, I will definitely give you much support

Source: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201305/150257.html