Some iG and LGD player reactions to G-1, Alliance, and their own performances

LGD

xiao8: Opportunity always goes to those who prepare for it. Alliance’s performances were outstanding, so their title is well-deserved. Thank you to longDD who has stuck with us as we made our transitions, and thank you to G-1 for the chance to learn and grow, I wish all the best to G-1.

DDC: GG. We were lacking, and must continue to work hard. Chinese Dota teams must all work hard now! Alliance is truly too strong.

DD/Sc: (suggesting that Chinese teams are having trouble keeping up due to a lack of domestic competition) I hadn’t played Dota 2 in three months yet only trained for half a month and was still able to keep up with other Chinese teams, this can only mean that there is a lack of domestic events.

Yao: We still ended up losing, congrats to Alliance. We still have many weaknesses, but we did manage to rediscover ourselves in this process. We have no regrets this time, isn’t Dota all about sharing exhilirating and tearful moments with good friends? Now it’s time to give it our all, and fight our way back to Seattle!

Sylar: G-1 was excellently done, and I hope there will be another season, add oil.

iG

Ferrari_430: Can’t fall asleep (we don’t know exactly why 430 is losing sleep, however)

YYF: We ended up doing the best that we could, let’s try harder and not leave any regrets with our next efforts. Our fate is still in our own hands.

Faith (before being eliminated from G-1): Let’s add oil brothers, I feel that our greatest enemy is not others, but ourselves! Hope that we can find ourselves tomorrow!

Faith (after): No matter how many times one falls, the most important thing is to be able to get back up! Let’s add oil together!

ChuaN (after tough losses on the first day of G-1): What happen???

ChuaN (after being eliminated): Back to the team base, didn’t expect that it would be in this manner in which we depart from the G-1 stage. I’m very thankful and very sorry to all those who’ve supported us, from our club’s staff to our fans, to those who came to the event to cheer us on live. We lost. Not much else to say. I hope LGD or DK can take the title.

Zhou (after tough losses on the first day of G-1): Recently iG has been in poor form, and I must bear a large part of the responsibility. Thank you to all the fans who continue supporting us through our poor form, we will not fall like this. Even if we have to fight back from the bottom, we will be back one step at a time!

Zhou (after being eliminated): This hurdle is one that we absolutely will overcome.

 

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Crisis of Spirit: One Chinese point of view on iG’s recent losses

DOTALAND note: Pretty interesting, yet perhaps a bit overreactive. Well-written, this is one point of view. Is this the fall of iG or just a major bump in their path? We can all speculate, and this piece does so unabashedly, with some assumptions, rumors, and analysis all in one.

We all know that there would never be one singular force to always dominate the Chinese Dota scene, but what looks like a sudden and drastic decline in iG’s fortunes has taken us all by surprise. From “Best in Universe” to GGing within 20 minutes, what exactly has happened?

In-game analysis

These are all things that we’ve seen with our own eyes: iG’s players first lost their motivation to continue innovating and improving, their picks seemingly stuck in a pre-Chinese New Year rut of old styles and tactics. At most they take an idea or two from other teams’ strategies, something that might allow them to maintain some semblance of respectability in online matches, but nothing more.

This by itself isn’t necessarily irredeemably bad for them, what is, however, is what appears to be a loss of fighting spirit and temperance in their play, replaced by what looks like pridefulness.

Let’s talk about ChuaN first. He was the worst out of them all earlier against LGD.cn. Perhaps he was not wrong to rotate over to help Furion, but he didn’t wait to cast his stun, thinking he could show off what he must think is a 100% accuracy spell for him, yet sadly this time, luck shows that it does not always stand on the same side, and he missed. He could’ve waited for Furion to trap the enemy in place first and then get the sure stun as any pro team would do; clearly this was not a lack of communication, but an exhibit of players making pub-level mistakes.

Then there’s Farmer Zhou. Confidently skilling at level 1 before leaving fountain, perhaps because he’s a pro, there’s nothing wrong with using Treants to scout. But since you’ve done that already, what was the point in running your hero to the river? To contest a rune with Dark Seer? The lanes at this point are obvious, you will be up against Dark Seer, do you really think you can win the rune over a DS at level 1? And then DS gets a haste rune, you’re 99% dead, but still why don’t you summon some more trees and try some blocking, and perhaps change that 99% to a 90%? Instead you do nothing, jog casually back towards your lane and feed first blood before making it, you’ve gotta be kidding me!

Faith, brah, your IQ has been eaten by your woman too? What was that ban/pick? They’ve banned five physical damage cores, then picked a Spectre, leaving you guys with no physical damage to choose from, hmm? Fallen into their trap, haven’t you? But still, you could make some better picks even after that, yet you pick Tinker and Furion as your last two, two pushers to go up against a lineup with Nyx and Spectre? Were you afraid that they wouldn’t have enough fun ganking already? Your entire lineup had one hard stun in Lina, and uncertain stun at that. Apart from that, you have Shadow Demon’s Disrupt. They’ve got the likes of Dark Seer, meaning that once they go rush you, you can counter kill at most one hero. So this entire draft left iG on the back foot from the start.

YYF this game missed last hits, so many easy last hits. Perhaps it’s because you were coordinating with teammates, or perhaps it’s because you’re supremely confident and do not need measly last hits, or perhaps you were reminiscing about that last threesome you’d had in your dreams… whatever, thousands of reasons, but missing those last hits in such a game showed to everyone that iG is missing that concentrated determination that they had in the past.

Watching Sylar patiently going back and forth adjusting even the slightest of problems with his equipment, watching him complete all his last hits under the tower, this LGD squad right now has an impressively superior mentality and attitude compared to this iG squad, that is for sure.

Ferrari_430 is the only one that performed normally, but everything had gone too far beyond his control, and he couldn’t save them.

Out of game analysis

There is no invincible person or dynasty, because the world is always changing, and no one can forever keep up with what happens at the top. However, people always desire more, and their desire is an impatient one. For iG’s players, they are at the peaks of their respective careers, what comes after the peak? Decline, then retirement.

No matter how strong they are now, time will always take its toll, and they are all clear about this. So in a recent livestream, we heard Zhou asking SJQ how to go about setting up a Taobao shop. We’ve seen the typically reserved YYF go from an occasional streamer within the team’s streaming rotation, to the constant streamer now. And big, simple ChuaN, streaming, but away from the bright glares of the domestic scene — he has selected to stream on a foreign platform.

Streaming. The advantages are as a great tool for promotion and name-recognition, and in this day and age, these are valuable things for those looking to carve out a new path after retirement as players.

And finally, Zhou began streaming.

There was that incident between YYF and Zhou; looking back, that was to be expected. YYF streaming solo, his popularity soaring, and more or less affecting the interests of the rest of the team. These things perhaps are all just surface level, but it is maybe just that allocation or split in interests that is affecting iG’s performances, that has shaken their roots as a team.

When Zhou spoke of the “spirit of Dota” in his recent interview, little did we know that they were already mired in a crisis of their own spirit.

Original: http://dota.shandian.biz/867.html

iG lose 3-43 to LGD.cn in their G-1 Season 5 LAN finals debut; zhou’s thoughts on the defeat

In iG’s debut match against LGD.cn at the LAN finals for G-1 Season 5, iG unexpectedly lost by an enormous score disparity of 3-43. Here is what iG’s carry player zhou had to say…

http://t.qq.com/p/t/306103032964039

“Recently iG has been in poor form, and I must bear a large part of the responsibility. Thank you to all the fans who continue supporting us through our poor form, we will not fall like this. Even if we have to fight back from the bottom, we will be back one step at a time!”

A friend of VG.fy’s lets us all know a bit more about the player…

Originally a post on Dota 2 Tieba, a friend of VG.fy’s tells us a bit more about this promising player, playing for the up and coming team VG.

Let’s start from when fy first started playing Dota.

VG.fy’s Haofang (Dotaland note: Haofang is a matchmaking platform like 11 or Garena) ID was Baixiao|dcfdcc, with a bunch of color codes on the end.

Before Haofang changed their points system on accounts, he was number one on the platform, and it was an uncontestable number one. That was before Faith had become as well-known on Haofang as fy was at the time.

I personally occasionally came across fy in top lobbies on Haofang. At that time in the top lobbies, strong players for some reason all had ‘sunset’ in their IDs, at one point I joined a room with him in it, assuming that his high points on his ID had been spammed illegitimately as so many others had done. I joined and the game started, I was on the other side.

He picked Shadow Fiend, his teammates were Sven, Crystal Maiden, Windrunner, and was it Naix or Bounty Hunter? My team, I really can’t recall clearly anymore, but regardless, in this game fy’s teammates lost two lanes hard, but his Shadow Fiend mid crushed our mid, and he singlehandedly kept his side in the game. His Shadow Fiend was all kinds of skillful, as he nimbly kept lanes pushed out and gave his teammates time to get some farm. In that time period, he achieved a quad-kill while abusing vision in the trees. After the game ended, after my team’s huge advantage had been overturned at the hands of one Shadow Fiend, I was in awe at the skill of this player with the ID of Baixiao, later to be known as fy.

After the 11 platform went open, he no longer wished to stay on Haofang, saying that it lacked room for improvement, so he moved over to 11 with some friends and made it to the top 50. Sometimes facing the likes of YYF and ChuaN, he would joke that he was about to get stomped; he was always a bit introverted — a very quiet person, he never flamed anyone while playing Dota.

He doesn’t get big-headed after beating a few nobodies, he never talks trash. He tends to be down to earth, preferring to stay home in a corner and play Dota with his girlfriend over anything else.

Fy truly is a great Dotaer. He’s humble, and he really has huge talent. Upon finishing school in 2012, with no idea what to do, perhaps he wanted to try something else. I had feared that he would thus stop playing Dota, or something like that. But on QQ one day he told me, he was with a team called AgFox, he wanted to give it a try, challenge himself, all for his dreams.

He’s a good person, always joking, quite a funny player really.

Original: http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20130517/1811527.html

SGamer interview with LongDD: I will grow old, but I will not leave

Oops, had this one backlogged. This is from May 15, a few days ago.

Original: http://dota2.sgamer.com/news/201305/150418_4.html

SGamer: Thank you to LongDD for doing this interview with SGamer.com. Earlier in the afternoon, you had told me that you were at the airport; where are you now?
LongDD: I’ve now arrived at the LGD team house.

SGamer: When you first left LGD a few days back, was there any anger?
LongDD: There wasn’t much anger, but there was a reluctatnce — I didn’t want to leave the pro scene, I didn’t want to give up on Seattle.

SGamer: Was it that once you left the team, LGD would have to play in the TI3 qualifiers? Additionally, something many people are curious about — when LGD first announced you as an official member, was there any contract signed?
LongDD: Indeed, because of my leaving the team, they would have to play in the qualifiers. My return this time is to accompany them along the way, to contribute that which I am able to. Everything was very rushed before so there was never any contract.

SGamer: LGD had mentioned in their earlier announcement that they had made efforts to keep you around by offering you other positions with the team, but you had declined. Why did you decline at first, and then return?
LongDD: Because I’d been playing professionally five years now, and had grown tired of floating around. After being out and about so many years, I wanted to go home. My role this time as a coach will still be a short one, just for a few days.

SGamer: Who contacted you to invite you back as coach? Does this all mean that you will still be leaving LGD after TI3?
LongDD: Xiao8 contacted me, and I agreed. There wasn’t much of a reason behind it, and if I had to say, it would be the fact that we’re all friends. After helping them make preparations for the TI3 qualifiers I’ll be leaving, so about 6 or 7 days…

SGamer: Why not choose to stick around with LGD, at least until after TI3?
LongDD: I will not stay, because I feel weary in the heart.

SGamer: Every in LGD is a veteran of the scene, so what will you mainly be responsible for?
LongDD: I’ve just arrived back so I’m still not sure exactly what. I think it’ll be things like summarizing results and strategies, making suggestions for improvements on things I see in 3v3 scrims, bans and picks, etc.

SGamer: How do you rate LGD’s current form? In terms of individual players do you think LGD can go toe-to-toe with iG?
LongDD: I’ve always felt that LGD has exceptional players in their team. Their loss in the DSL to VG, I feel, is only down to a lack of preparation.

SGamer: What do you think is the most important element of a typical competitive game now? Bans/pick stage?
LongDD: Nowadays in professional matches, the bans/picks determines something like 60-70% of the outcome. The rest of it is down to lane setups and how each lane fares, as well as performance and team execution. The reason I say this is because player skill is very similar between top teams now.

SGamer: Compared to the old mode of three bans in the first ban phase, what does the change to two bans bring?
LongDD: It means that strategies are more varied. Bans/picks become more difficult to get right, and thus require more out of each team in order to achieve success. It requires teams to know how to play more different styles. So competitive games nowadays possess a higher degree of tactical thought.

SGamer: What do you feel LGD’s greatest weakness right now?
LongDD: Mainly it is that they lack a wider array of styles. They must understand this, and practice some more combinations, and work on their mentality.

SGamer: Mentality? Are you saying their mentality right now isn’t in a good place?
LongDD: I personally feel that they need to try more different things; they can’t only always run the same exact things. The new styles coming from many different teams are things that cannot simply be ignored.

SGamer: After leaving LGD, you began making vods and streams. Has this been enjoyable for you, or have you still been thinking about……
LongDD: Playing pro? The professional lifestyle is a brutally competitive one. Without the chance of a good team, I don’t want to strive for it any longer. Streaming is quite fun, I had been spending 16, 17 hours a day doing it — putting my life into it, haha.

SGamer: Will you continue streaming after helping LGD with the TI3 qualifiers?
LongDD: Yes.

SGamer: Under your tutelage, how do you think LGD will do at G-1?
LongDD: I think they should be champions.

SGamer: What is training like for LGD right now? Are they mainly scrimming with the Int squad or with other teams?
LongDD: Yeah, the typical day is scrimming with various teams. During my time here I will help arrange some laning and bans/picks practices.

SGamer: Which teams do you scrim more with?LongDD: All about the same, we contact all of them.

SGamer: Do you feel that LGD is able to challenge iG’s position at the top?
LongDD: I feel that there is a possibility, and the possibility is a big one.

SGamer: Lastly, why don’t you bring this interview to an end?
LongDD: Thank you to those friends who have supported me all along. I will eventually grow old, but I will not leave.

G-1 All-Star match voting on-going: Chinese All-Stars vs International All-Stars

As of the beginning of this week, G-1 has had a voting page active for fans to select all-star rosters for a Chinese versus Rest of World match to take place during day 1 of the G-1 Finals, May 24. The voting is open to all, and does not require an account. As of this post, it looks like the Chinese All-Star team will be BurNIng + iG, while the International All-Stars have three Alliance members accompanied by Korok and Net. While some of the vote leads are significant, nothing is quite set in stone yet, and some positions still remain close.

While voting is not over yet, we are past the halfway mark — so be sure to get your votes in now! All-Star match voting will conclude on May 20, and the match itself will take place on May 24.

http://g1.17173.com/voting/

LGD offering one (Chinese) fan a chance to accompany them to TI3

This year, LGD is offering fans the chance to submit entries in a bid to be chosen as the one lucky fan who will travel with their squad(s) to Seattle later this summer and accompany the team as they compete at TI3. All expenditures, including airfare and accommodations in Seattle, will be covered for the lucky winner. In addition, a number of other fans will also win secondary prizes varying in impressiveness. Sadly for international fans, this event is for Chinese citizens only. If you meet this requirement, the details for entering are below. For everyone else, let us welcome our Chinese visitors to Seattle in the summer, and celebrate the fact that LGD Gaming is giving a Chinese fan the chance to come all the way across the Pacific Ocean to the year’s greatest event!

Send email to lgdgaming@vpgame.cc with your personal details (such as name, age, contact info, address) in a way that describes your “Heart’s path as an LGD fan”, the email’s subject line being 【TI3之路】. There is no word limit, but originality will be required. The deadline for submissions is May 31 at 21:00 Beijing time.

From the entries, LGD will choose a selection of high quality submissions, and put them up for an open vote, to take place between June 1 to 5. The winner here will be invited to meet LGD face to face, where details will be fleshed out. First prize is a full paid trip to TI3, autographed team spring and summer uniforms, LGD memorabilia, as well as the chance to get a taste of the food and LGD hot sauce provided at the LGD team house! Second place gets a full set of Razer gear, plus an autographed summer team uniform. Third place will receive RAM provided by Kingston HyperX, and fourth through tenth place receive LGD memorabilia, badges, keychains, posters, etc.

Additional details: http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20130515/1810116.html